you rarely see a new york city manhattan person killed. >> because -- think of all those commercials that went out on every broadcast, in particular sports broadcasting, join the army, join the marines, join the navy, get an education. they never said go to war -- they said get a degree. how appealing is that to a young guy with ambition but who can in no way afford college? you do a few years in the service, get under way, get a life. that is the way the military service was offered up. it was a huge dose of patriotism as well, of course, but -- so i do not think my story had any particular effect. i do not think walter's story had that much of an effect, honestly. it was when the casualties start to get over 100 a week, the sons of middle-class families were being lost, that is when, never mind the students protesting, when their parents started to protest. when vietnam in effect was a lost cause. >> what is your take on the iraq and afghanistan coverage? >> there virtually is no coverage. except when something really horrible happens. to most americans, quite honestly, it is what